A NEW KIND OF MASTERBELOVED OSHO,WHEN YOU WERE RESPONDING TO SARJANO’S QUESTION, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT A DISCIPLE CAN SAY NO TO THE MASTER IF THE LOVE IS DEEP ENOUGH. I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR SAYING NO TO US OUT OF YOUR LOVE, BUT NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. DO YOU MEAN THAT THE DISCIPLE MUST HAVE THE FREEDOM TO SAY NO BUT IN FACT WOULD NEVER WISH TO OR NEED TO? FROM MY EXPERIENCE, WHEN I HAVE SAID NO TO YOU, I HAVE DENIED MYSELF AND THEN SUFFERED THE CONSEQUENCES. HOW CAN THERE BE ANY SITUATION IN WHICH THE DEVOTEE WOULD SAY NO TO THE MASTER?THE QUESTION YOU HAVE ASKED RAISES MANY QUESTION: QUESTION ABOUT LOVE, QUESTION ABOUT FREEDOM, QUESTION ABOUT THE MASTER AND DISCIPLE AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP.LIFE APPEARS TO BE VERY SIMPLE BUT AS YOU GO DEEPER INTO IT, IT BECOMES MORE AND MORE COMPLEX. AND THE ULTIMATE COMPLEXITY IS THAT LIFE CONSISTS OF CONTRADICTIONS. IF YOU UNDERSTAND, THOSE CONTRADICTIONS BECOME COMPLEMENTARY. IF YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND, THOSE CONTRADICTIONS BECOME OPPOSITES.BUT IN THE ULTIMATE ORGANIC UNITARY THERE IS ENOUGH SPACE FOR BOTH YES AND NO. IT WILL NOT BE ULTIMATE ORGANIC UNITARY IF THERE IS A SPACE ONLY FOR YES, IF THERE IS SPACE ONLY FOR LIGHT, IF THERE IS SPACE ONLY FOR LOVE, AND NOT THEIR OPPOSITES.OUR MIND LOOKS AT THINGS IN CATEGORIES OF OPPOSITION, BUT MIND IS NOT THE ULTIMATE DECISIVE FACTOR. THE ULTIMATE DECISIVE FACTOR IS A STATE OF NO-MIND. IN A STATE OF NO-MIND EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. THE INCOMPREHENSIBLE IS ALSO POSSIBLE; THE IMPOSSIBLE IS ALSO POSSIBLE.APPARENTLY YOU ARE RIGHT, THAT THE DISCIPLE CANNOT SAY NO; HOW CAN THE DISCIPLE SAY NO TO THE MASTER? IN WHAT SITUATIONS? IT HAS BEEN THE TRADITION THAT NO HAS ALWAYS BEEN TAKEN AS NEGATIVE. WITH ME, THING HAVE A FAR DEEPER MEANING AND SIGNIFICANCE. NO IS NOT NECESSARILY NEGATIVE AND YES IS NOT NECESSARILY POSITIVE. YOU CAN SAY YES OUT OF FEAR, THEN IT IS NEGATIVE. YOU CAN SAY OUT OF LOVE. YOU LOVE SO MUCH THAT YOU ARE NOT WORRIED EVEN TO SAY NO. THE NO BECOMES AFFIRMATIVE; IT IS NOT LONGER NEGATIVE.AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, I AM NOT PART OF ANY OLD CATEGORY OF MASTER. I AM A NEW BEGINNING IN THE SENSE THAT THE OLD MASTER DEMANDED SURRENDERED. I DON’T DEMAND ANYTHING FROM YOU, BECAUSE TO ME SURRENDERED IS A SUBTLE SPIRIT SLAVERY. OF COURSE, WITH A MASTER THE SURRENDER FEELS BEAUTIFUL BUT EVEN IF SLAVERY IS DECORATED WITH FLOWERS I CANNOT BE DECEIVED BY IT.I WANT MY PEOPLE TO BE INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN FREEDOM. IF THEY LOVE ME IT IS OUT OF THEIR FREEDOM, NOT OUT OF FEAR, NOT OUT OF DESIRE, NOT OUT OF SOME LONGING FOR ACHIEVEMENT. THE OLD DISCIPLE WAS SURRENDERING HIMSELF BECAUSE HE WANTED TO BE ENLIGHTENED. THE MASTER WAS BEING USED AS A MEANS. I DON’T ALLOW MYSELF TO BE USED AS A MEANS. THAT IS UGLY.THE OLD MASTER WAS USING THE DISCIPLES FOR HIS OWN EGOISTIC ENDS. THE MASTERS IN THE PAST USED TO BRAG ABOUT HOW MANY DISCIPLES THEY HAD. THE NUMBER OF THE DISCIPLES DECIDED THE GREATNESS OF THE MASTER. THE MASTER WAS ALSO DEPENDENT IN A CERTAIN SENSE ON THE DISCIPLES. IT IS SOMETHING TO BE UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU CANNOT MAKE ANYBODY DEPENDENT WITH OUT YOURSELF BECOMING DEPENDENT TOO. AND THE SAME IS TRUE IF YOU ARE INDEPENDENT, YOU WOULD LOVE TO MAKE EVERYBODY INDEPENDENT. BECAUSE INDEPENDENT INDIVIDUALITY HAS SUCH BEAUTY AND GRACE, SUCH JOY, SUCH FREEDOM TO FLY IN THE SKY WITH NO BOUNDARIES AND NO CHAINS, WITH NO CONDITIONS, NO EXPECTATIONS, THAT A MASTER LOVE HIS DISCIPLES TO BE ULTIMATELY FREE, FREE EVEN OF HIMSELF.ZARATHUSTRA HAS SAID TO HIS DISCIPLES: “BEWARE OF ME.” THAT SMALL STATEMENT CONTAINS GREAT MEANING, BECAUSE A DISCIPLE CAN RENOUNCE EVERYTHING TO BE ONE WITH THE MASTER, TO COME CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE MASTER; HE CAN EVEN SACRIFICE HIMSELF. BUT IN THIS SACRIFICING HE WILL ENJOY A CERTAIN UNBURDENING, BECAUSE NOW HE IS NO LONGER RESPONSIBLE. THE WHOLE RESPONSIBILITY IS ON THE SHOULDERS OF THE MASTER. THE DISCIPLE HAS BECOME A SHEEP AND THE MASTER HAS BECOME THE SHEPHERD. NOW THE SHEPHERD WILL TAKE CARE.ONE CAN THINK IN THIS WAY THAT THE HAS ATTAINED A CERTAIN FREEDOM- FREEDOM FROM RESPONSIBILITY. BUT BECOMING A SHEEP, EVEN IF YOU BECOME FREE, YOUR FREEDOM HAS NO MEANING. IT IS FEAR; IT IS IRRESPONSIBILITY. IN A DEEPER SENSE YOU HAVE LOST YOURSELF TO GAIN SOMETHING. IT IS NOT OF LOVE THAT YOU HAVE SURRENDERED TO THE MASTER; OUT OF LOVE THERE IS NO SURRENDER, THERE IS NO NEED.LOVE IS FAR BIGGER PHENOMENON THAN ANY SURRENDER. SURRENDER IS OF THE MIND AND SURRENDER IS AN EFFORT.LOVE IS OF THE HEART AND IT IS NOT AN EFFORT. YOU SUDDENLY FIND YOURSELF IN LOVE WITH SOMEONE. EVEN IF YOU TRY TO BE IN LOVE WITH SOMEONE YOU CANNOT SUCCEED.NO EFFORT IS GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL. LOVE COMES JUST LIKE THE SPRING COMES, AND WHEN LOVE COMES IT BRINGS MANY FLOWERS.THERE HAVE BEEN TWO KINDS OF MASTERS. THE MAJORITY OF THE MASTERS IN THE PAST DEMANDED SURRENDER, TOTAL SURRENDER. IT WAS A KIND OF SPIRITUAL SLAVERY. THE MASTER WAS ENJOYING A GREAT EGO, AND THE DISCIPLE WAS ENJOYING A GREAT UN BURDENING FROM ALL RESPONSIBILITIES. NOW THE MASTER IS GOING TO SAVE HIM. NOW THE MASTER IS HIS SALVATION, LIBERATION,ENLIGHTENMENT. ALL THAT HE COULD DO … HE HAS SURRENDERED HIMSELF. HE HAS BECOME AN ABSOLUTE YES.TO ME THIS KIND OF RELATIONSHIP WAS NOT HEALTHY, SOMETHING WAS BASICALLY WRONG. BECAUSE OF THIS SITUATION IN THE PAST, ONE MAN STAND SEPERATE FROM THE WHOLE CROWD OF MASTER, AND THAT IS J.KRISHNAMURTI. HE DENIED HE WAS A MASTER AND HE REFUSED TO ACCEPT ANY BODY AS A DISCIPLE; THIS WAS ANOTHER EXTREME. THE MASTER WERE DEMANDING ABSOLUTE SURRENDER . J. KRISHNAMURTI HAS LIVED WITH MASTER WHO HAVE ASKED ABSOLUTE SURRENDER FROM HIM, AND AS HE BECOME MORE AND MATURE HE SAW THE WHOLE GAME : THE MASTER ENJOYS THE EGO, THE DISCIPLE ENJOYS IRRESPONSIBILITY. BUT NEITHER THE MASTER IS A TRUE MASTER NOR THE DISCIPLE; IS A TRUE DISCIPLE BOTH ARE EXPLOITING EACH OTHER.THERE IS NO QUESTION OF LOVE WHEN THERE IS EXPLOITATION. KRISHNAMURTI REFUSED TO BE MASTER OF ANYONE AND HE REFUSED TO ALLOW ANY ONE TO THINK THAT HE IS A DISCIPLE. HE HAS TAKEN A GREAT STEP BUT HE HAS MOVED TO THE VERY EXTREME. AND ALWAYS REMEMBER; IF ONE EXTREME IS WRONG THE OTHER EXTREME CANNOT BE RIGHT. THE RIGHT IS ALWAYS SOMEWHERE EXACTLY IN THE MIDDLE, THE GOLDEN MEAN. ONLY IN THE MIDDLE IS THERE BALANCE, AND ONLY IN THE MIDDLE , EXACTLY IN THE MIDDLE , IS THERE TRANSCENDENCE OF THE POLARITIES OF THE OPPOSITES.MY POSITION IS EXACTLY IN THE MIDDLE. I DON’T ASK ANY SURRENDER FROM YOU; HENCE , I AM NOT ON THE OLD TRACK. I DON’T DENY YOU THE BEAUTY OF BEING A DISCIPLE. I DON’T INSULT YOU; I DON’T REJECT YOU . I ACCEPT YOUR LOVE, BUT I WILL NOT ACCEPT YOUR SURRENDER. IN ACCEPTING YOUR LOVE AND YOUR DISCIPLE HOOD I AM YOUR MASTER, BUT THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP OF SURRENDER.I AM NOT HERE TO ERASE YOUR INDIVIDUALITY. I AM HERE JUST TO ERASE YOUR EGO. THAT DOES NOT NEED ANY SURRENDER, IT NEEDS A DEEP MEDITATIVE UNDERSTANDING ON YOUR PART. I CAN GIVE YOU LOVE, I CAN SHARE MY OWN UNDERSTANDING WITH YOU, BUT THERE IS NO CONDITION ATTACHED TO IT. MY JOY WILL BE TO SEE YOU AS A GROWING INDIVIDUAL IN TOTAL FREEDOM, AND IN TOTAL FREEDOM , YES IS AS MUCH POSSIBLE AS NO. I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR PROBLEM , THAT NO IS VERY DIFFICULT, MORE DIFFICULT TO A MASTER WHO DOES NOT ASK SURRENDER. NO BECOMES MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE MASTER ALLOWS IT. IF THE MASTER DOES NOT ALLOW NO, HE IS REPRESSING SOMETHING IN YOU , AND HIS NOT ALLOWING NO DOES NOT DESTROY THE POSSIBILITY OF KNOWING YOU.ON THE CONTRARY, THE MASTER HIMSELF IS AFRAID THAT IF YOU ARE NOT PREVENTED, YOU CAN SAY NO.THE YES FROM YOU IS MEANINGLESS IF YOU ARE NOT FREE TO SAY NO. YOUR YES HAS MEANING ONLY BECAUSE YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY FREE TO SAY NO. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO SAY NO. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THERE WILL BE A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE TO SAY NO. IN FACT IT WILL BECOME MORE AND MORE IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO SAY NO.TO SAY NO IS EASY WHEN YOU ARE PREVENTED, PROHIBITED. THEN IT BECOMES A QUESTION OF YOUR INDIVIDUALITY; IT BECOMES A QUESTION OF YOUR SPIRITUAL FREEDOM. AND CERTAINLY ANYBODY WHO HAS ANY DIGNITY IS BOUND TO FIND SITUATIONS WHERE HE WOULD LIKE TO SAY NO. IF HE DOES NOT SAY IT HE IS BEHAVING AS A HYPOCRITE . HE IS NOT SAYING NO BECAUSE HE IS AFRAID TO LOSE THE LOVE OF THE MASTER AND TO LOSE THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING HIGHER STATUS OF CONSCIOUSNESS. BUT THIS BUSINESS, THIS CUNNINGNESS. AND THERE SHOULD NOT EXIST ANY BUSINESS OR ANY CUNNINGNESS BETWEEN THE MASTER AND DISCIPLE.I ACCEPT THE STATUS OF A MASTER AND THE STATUS OF A DISCIPLE. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN IT. IF THE MASTER AND DISCIPLE ARE NOT EXPLOITING EACH OTHER, IF THE DISCIPLE IS NOT USING THE MASTER AS A MEANS TO ENLIGHTENMENT, LIBERATION, AND THE MASTER IS NOT USING THE DISCIPLE FOR HIS OWN AGGRANDIZEMENT, FOR HIS OWN EGO-FULFILLMENT. I WANT MASTER AND DISCIPLE TO STAND SIDE BY SIDE IN DEEP LOVE, WITH NO QUESTION OF ANY SURRENDER, WITH NO EXPECTATION FROM THE MASTER YOU HAVE ALWAYS TO SAY YES.MY OWN EXPERIENCE IS, THE MORE YOU ARE PROHIBITED FROM DOING SOMETHING THE MORE THERE IS A DESIRE TO DO IT. PROHIBITION IS A KIND OF PROVOCATION.I DON’T PROHIBIT YOU. IT DOES NOT DISTURB ME OR MY INDIVIDUALITY IF YOU SAY NO. ON THIS POINT MANEESHA IS RIGHT, THAT WHATEVER SHE HAS SAID NO, SHE HAS SUFFERED THE CONSEQUENCES. BUT THAT IS UP TO YOU- NOT MY EXPECTATION. IT IS GOING TO BE YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WHEN YOU SAY NO, YOU HAVE TAKEN YOURSELF AS YOU ARE WISER; YOU WILL SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES.I HAVE NOT SAID TO SARJANO, “YOU WILL NOT SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR NO.” BUT IT WILL NOT BE FROM ME: NOT THAT I WILL BE ANNOYED, NOT THAT I WILL BE IRRITATED, NOT THAT I WILL BE ANGRY. IT IS PERFECTLY OKAY WITH ME WHETHER YOU SAY YES OR NO. BUT FOR YOURSELF THERE IS GOING TO BE A DIFFERENCE. YES MEANS YOU ARE LISTENING AND FOLLOWING WHAT I AM SAYING. NO MEANS YOU ARE DECIDING FOR YOURSELVES. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY FREE TO DECIDE YOURSELF, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO BE READY FOR THE CONSEQUENCES ALSO.FREEDOM BRINGS RESPONSIBILITY. THAT’S THE MEANING I CONTINUOUSLY REPEAT, AND I KNOW YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND. EVERYBODY LIKE FREEDOM AND NOBODY LIKES RESPONSIBILITY, BUT THEY COME IN THE SAME PACKAGE; YOU CANNOT SEPARATE THEM. I GIVE YOU FREEDOM AND I GIVE YOU RESPONSIBILITY. YOU CANNOT COMPLAIN ABOUT ME, BECAUSE YOU ARE ALWAYS FREE TO SAY NO. YOU CANNOT SAY THAT I HAVE INHIBITED YOU, BECAUSE I HAVE NOT ASK THAT YOU SAY YES WHETHER YOU WANT TO OR NOT. YOU CANNOT BLAME ME.THIS IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE, THAT WHENEVER YOU WILL SAY YES, YOU WILL FIND A PEACE, A SILENCE. AND WHENEVER YOU WILL SAY NO, YOU WILL FIND A DEEP BURDEN ON YOUR HEART, ALMOST A WOUND. BUT YOU ARE CREATING THAT WOUND. AND I WILL NOT PREVENT YOU, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT PREVENTING PROVOKES PEOPLE TO DO THE SAME THING THAT IS BEING PREVENTED.IF I SAY TO YOU, “NEVER SAY NO TO ME,” YOU WILL FIND MANY, MANY TIME THE DESIRE TO SAY NO; HENCE I GIVE YOU ABSOLUTE FREEDOM. IT IS UP TO YOU TO SAY YES OR TO SAY NO. YOU ARE TO DECIDE YOUR OWN DESTINY. I CAN ONLY HELP YOU, SUGGEST TO YOU, SHOW YOU THE WAY. BUT YOU CAN SAY, “I DON’T WANT TO GO” – I CANNOT FORCE YOU. YOU CAN ACCEPT MY UNDERSTANDING. YOU CAN REJECT IT, AND IN YOUR REJECTION I DON’T THINK THAT THERE IS LESS LOVE. THAT’S WHY I SAID IF YOU DEEPLY LOVE YOU WILL NOT BE WORRIED BY SAYING NO. BUT I HAVE NOT MENTIONED ANYTHING THAT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU.BY SAYING NO YOU ARE RELIVING ME FROM RESPONSIBILITY. YOU ARE TAKING THE RESPONSIBILITY INTO YOUR OWN HANDS. NOW IF THINGS GO WRONG YOU CANNOT COMPLAIN ABOUT ME. WHEN YOU SAY YES AND THINGS GO RIGHT I CAN NOT BRAG ABOUT IT. THE YES IS YOURS; THE CONSEQUENCE WILL BE YOURS.I LOVE YOU ENOUGH – HENCE I GIVE YOU TOTAL FREEDOM. IF YOU LOVE YOURSELF ENOUGH, YOU WILL BE AWARE WHAT NO CAN DO TO YOU AND WHAT YES CAN DO TO YOU.I TEACH YOU AWARENESS AND THEN LEAVE YOU. A MAN OF AWARENESS WILL NOT TRY TO GO THROUGH THE WALLS, HE WILL FIND THE DOOR. A MAN OF AWARENESS WILL PICK UP ROSES AND WILL AVOID THE THORNS.I GIVE YOU FREEDOM, AND IN GIVING YOU FREEDOM I FEEL ABSOLUTELY FREE. I DON’T HAVE ANY BURDEN OF SOLVING, SAVING, LIBERATING HUMANITY. I DON’T HAVE ANY BURDEN AT ALL. I AM ABSOLUTELY WEIGHTLESS. I AM NOT A SAVIOR, NOT A MESSIAH, NOT A MESSENGER.I HAVE CHOSEN A THIRD CATEGORY. JUST AS KRISHNAMURTI IS ALONE ON THE EXTREME LEFT, I AM ALONE IN THE MIDDLE. AND KRISHNAMURTI IS REACTING AGAINST THE TRADITION. I AM NOT REACTING I SIMPLY ACTING OUT OF UNDERSTANDING.I CAN SEE WHERE THE OLD PATTERN WENT WRONG. I WILL NOT DO JUST THE OPPOSITE BECAUSE JUST THE OPPOSITE WILL ALSO GO WRONG. I AM DOING SOMETHING EXACTLY IN THE MIDDLE.SO I DON’T DENY YOUR DISCIPLESHIP. I DON’T DENY IT BECAUSE I RESPECT YOU. I LOVE YOU. I CANNOT SAY I AM NOT A MASTER BECAUSE I KNOW, I HAVE EXPERIENCED, I CAN SHARE IT WITH YOU. THEN IT IS UP TO YOU TO SAY YES OR NO.
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